Originally published on WarOnWeThePeople.com on September 23, 2009

 

Swine FLU FORUM

DETRACTOR:

I’m a Microbial Biology major at UC Berkeley, read: EDUCATED, and if you knew anything about viruses, you’d know exactly how influenza viruses can genetically recombine. All of you people are ignorant sheep. It’s pathetic how readily you believe something just because it’s pitched by some guy on Youtube who claims to be a doctor. This is called a CONSPIRACY THEORY. You are wasting your time.

 

DR. HOROWITZ’S REPLY:

You, sir, are the perfectly ignorant example of arrogant intelligence. You really believe you learned something substantive in microbiology pertaining to this discussion? Think about how retarded you sound. As though you would expect a fox to teach hens correctly the art of self defense.

 

Editor’s Foreword

Wow! Let’s just concede who will go into the concentration camp, shall we? The street people? The Blacks in urban ghettos? The Muslims in Palestine? The old Jews in Florida who believe MDs are “Medical Deities?”

 

How much more must we sacrifice the truth, and fellow human beings, in this politically correct game we play requiring our polite “conspiracy of silence?”

 

“It requires courage to utter truth; for the higher Truth lifts her voice, the louder will error scream, until its inarticulate sound is forever silenced in oblivion”…

 

Mary Baker Eddy, Christian Science

 

This is your opportunity to tell the whole truth; to become intelligent, enlightened, or awake enough to stop the genocide by realizing, then heralding:

1) Consensus opinion regarding illusions creates the limitations and exploitations we suffer. For example, look up the definition of the word pandemic.” There are no numbers, percentages, morbidity or mortality statistics, required to declare a pandemic.” It is a hairy fairy perception of a general” distribution of disease throughout a population. No hard science here, just consensus opinion formed by so-called “experts”–prostitutes for petrochemical industrialists. In the current case of this so-called “Swine Flu pandemic,” the mass media, advancing F.E.A.R–“false evidence appearing real”- has established the fright and consensus mentality. Little more is actually threatening besides Halliburton and the disease industrialists’ vaccination depopulation agenda

 

2) The flu is actually a wonderful thing. Read FLU FACTS.

 

Everyone born will eventually die of something. Only stupid people disregard drug and chemical (environmental and lifestyle) intoxications that produce weakened immune systems generating the detoxification reaction called “the flu.” These causes are primarily to blame for the 30-40,000 annual “flu victims” in the US–people who could likely have been saved by alternative and complementary natural healing methods and materials, but instead popped poisonous pills to cure their initially non-deadly ills. . . .

 

How dare we call ourselves intelligent and civilized when a consensus of stupid people’s opinion directs our legislated “public health“ policies and “biodefense“ strategies?

 

3) Faith in the pagan gods of science, medicine, Big Pharma, Halliburton, vaccinations, antibiotics, prostituting “experts” and politics as usual, is the central sin bringing on the current and coming plagues.

 

Stupid people consider this statement religious fanaticism. It has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the neglected part of you, and everyone, contractually connected by heart-felt FAITH alone to the Central Omnipotent God–the Supreme Metaphysical Power over health, life and death. . . .

 

How often have you willed yourself well because sickness was inconvenient, or allowed yourself to give in to sickness because you needed a rest or  sympathy from others? Often enough to realize this power within you.

 

How often have you watched people take their illness or disability and make it an asset in social service? So disease or disability is really an opportunity!

 

Have you ever faithfully prayed for anything and been aptly rewarded by this exercise of free will and FAITH?

 

If not, you are a suitably stupid candidate for quarantine, vaccination, antibiotic intoxication, and self-righteous arrogant social consensus formation advancing genocide as treatment for the illusion of pandemic swine flu.

 

SWINE FLU VACCINE INJURED PERSONAL TESTIMONY

 

E-MAILED MESSAGES:

From: KP Stoller, MD, FACHM
President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc
Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico (www.hbotnm.com) wrote:

 

Just get [certain legislators] . . . to make sure we can “Self Shield” and “Self Quarantine.” That is the tactic everyone needs to take to bypass the vaccine [risks].

 

This is coming down fast and we need to get on it, and on the congressmen that can help.

 

Eileen Dannemann

Standing Director, National Coalition of Organized Women (NCOW)

 

. . . Somehow, I think that that will happen because not only would it be too expensive to put the non vaccinated [people], or the symptomatic, in detention camps (Halliburton) but it would start a riot.  They would have to have whole families in their, to boot.

 

Think practically.  Lets say someone in a public school comes down with the flu.  Do you think he/she or his family will be put in a FEMA quarantine camp, or told to stay home from school, not go out…and maybe even his parents quarantined in the home?

 

I think the problem will be the “coercing” to vaccinate by making parents stay home from work and not provide an income.  On the other hand, the quarantine may be just two weeks.

 

Furthermore, this is not ebola…it looks like a clandestine “drill” to me to see how it would affect the nation under a real threat.

 

. . . My concern is firstly for the healthy and conscious human beings to keep the vaccine accommodations and to safe guard those who have been responding to our vaccine awareness all these years and have not vaccinated or damaged their children. This demographic warrants our first attention as they [are conscious and conscientious health activists].

 

Thirdly, my concern is for “pregnant women” who are clandestinely being pushed by all the providers who get product from [drug companies and] the CDC to be vaccinated with the annual flu and the swine flu vaccines during pregnancy without [regarding] thimerosal content.  And in light of the fact that the manufacturers’ insert and the FDA indications are contrary to the CDC and ACIP [genocidal recommendations] and are contraindicated for mothers of a whole new generation of Americans.  Not to mention the toxic adjuvants, [including] squalene . . .

 

If the homeless get sick maybe they will go into the camps.  They should use the camps that Halliburton built . . . Tent cities for the increasing amount of people who have lost their homes to foreclosures and are living in their cars and the street. . . .

 

From: Anonymous, Concerned Citizen, wrote: 

My brother just had swine flu – lab confirmed a couple of weeks ago, and he is a school principal.  He was required to stay home by law for 6 (based on incubation period I guess) days.  His kids were NOT required to stay home from preschool, nor was his wife given any direction to limit her activities.  They are in Connecticut.  There were dozens of kids in his school with it.  They even stopped testing the kids because it was obvious it was what they had since so many others had been confirmed and it was really no big deal.  Just a flu where the symptoms came on really quickly – like almost instantaneously, pretty miserable for about a week (which made the 6 day mandatory stay home a no brainer for my brother cause he felt lousy anyway).  I think so many have known people with it seeing that it was not a serious illness so this type of heavy handed behavior would have to be questioned by all those in schools etc who have already dealt with this.   My sister in law was good about keeping the kids a distance from dad, but he still helped feed the baby (wore a mask) and did everything together at home taking reasonable precautions and nobody else in the house including my parents who went to visit and help with the little ones caught it.  This doesn’t seem any worse than the regular flu to me.

 

From:Barbara Loe Fisher, President, National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), wrote:

[Anonymous], it sounds like your brother handled the situation well. . . .

 

NVIC’s position is no citizen in either emergency or non-emergency situations should be forced to be vaccinated against their will; that all emergency public health laws should use the least restrictive means for quarantine – i.e., home quarantine;  that no citizen should be removed from their home and transported and detained in a locked-down location against their will for the purpose of quarantine; that only when the numbers of deaths outnumber the births and the survival of the community is at stake should there be a ban on free assembly.

 

I think it is overreaching to require home quarantine for a mild disease such as the current one. But in this politically charged situation where public health officials are anxious to use recently expanded police powers that have been give to them post 9-11, it may be wise for people who are sick to voluntarily home quarantine to avoid provoking harsher methods of quarantine. The sick voluntarily separating themselves from those who are well and employing traditional infection-control measures such as hand washing, masking, etc. are acceptable measures to take. And if we don’t offer some concession to employing sensible, least restrictive disease control measures, it plays into the hands of those who want to bring out the police with dogs.

 

But forced vaccination, forced use of prescription drugs and forced quarantine in non-home locations –  particularly when it could involve co-mingling the sick and the unvaccinated – is totally unacceptable and is the line in the sand for NVIC.

 

E-MAILED RESPONSE TO THIS WEBSITE:

From: KP Stoller, MD, FACHM
President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc
Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico (www.hbotnm.com) wrote:

 

I second [Anonymous]’s concerns and sentiments. I think it is important to understand that not everyone comes to enlightenment at the same time or in the same way. The issue is not who figured it out first or how well anyone of us have been able to get the truth out.  We have all had to battle a matrix of disinformation, frank brain washing and propaganda. We will not destroy the unholy alliance of the government – media – pharma complex in the next four months, but we might be able to expose the insanity of what is taking place and what is about to happen and maybe, in the process, protect our civil and human rights, but we won’t be able to do that if we attack each other.

 

Reply from Dr. Horowitz:

Frankly Dr. Stoller,

 

I agree with you ENTIRELY, but you seem to be neglecting your own wisdom. Please re-read what you wrote, especially, “we won’t be able to do that if we attack each other.”

 

Anonymous (or you) never sent me what you wrote about, stating: “I think it is important to understand that not everyone comes to enlightenment at the same time or in the same way.” I do not have any idea which of two options you mean: 1) metaphysical enlightenment, or 2) genocidal vaccination agenda enlightenment?

 

Moreover, I do not know what you are referring to with regard to your statement, “The issue is not who figured it out first or how well anyone of us have been able to get the truth out.” Did [Anonymous] write something that presupposes this is my egocentric arrogant position? Are you implying there are those in this discussion group who choose to project this self righteous judgment on me? If so, where were they on June 21, 2009 when my last two years was spent, along with nearly $100,000.00 uniting tens-of-thousands of people worldwide in PRAYER during LIVEH2O for two primary reasons: 1) it was my Divine calling to do so; and, 2) I SAW A POSSIBLE CHANCE TO FACILITATE MORE PEOPLE COMING TO BOTH ENLIGHTENMENTS HELPING TO SAVE MORE LIVES. Did you join us in the prayer?

 

Risking further alienation from those who choose to judge me more, given our shared nobel goals, I have, since 1996, made the movement for vaccination risk (i.e., genocidal) awareness more palatable for the mainstream. I did not ask for your thanks, nor expect it, but deserve respect from those claiming to be loving and intelligent, who ask for my feedback, then reject it.

 

And what does this working group say about bringing urgent life-saving truths to light by remaining honest and true to the genocidal facts at hand? Oh, not good things. “Let us not rock the boat so much!” “Let us not use the ‘G’ word.” Excuse me while I puke.

 

Fisher, years  ago, labeled and defamed me as “radical” AFTER helping to promote and fund her NVIC program. What a stab in the back! Not uncommon for Fisher and her BigPharma lobby attorneys. What were their names? Ask Marge Grant. Sad that some in this collaborative group consider the whole truth “radical,” and judge me, as you now seemingly judge me, for taking a more spiritual bent as I observe the near futility of this dialog at this stage of the game. FORGIVE ME FOR SIMPLY BEING NAUSEATED WITNESSING THE HYPOCRISY OF POLITICAL BS ARTISTS AMONG US WHO HAVE SOLD AMERICA’S LIBERTY AND HUMAN LIVES DOWN THE DRAIN.

 

Finally, you may also be withholding what others in this group think of me. Let it be known this discussion group harbors the view that “Horowitz may just be another ‘knighted’ agitator working for the Vatican and shadow governors.”

 

This prevalent point-of-view absolutely evidences gross idiocy.  Barbara Loe Fisher wrote ME, to engage me in this discussion. She got my address from a list of cc’d parties. I did not seek her. She wrote for me, and you, to herald her latest NVIC proclamation–where she “draws the line” concerning incarcerations for genocidal inoculations. She, not me, has been celebrated by the mainstream media for her positions on vaccinations, and exclusively held the mainstream media’s trust all these years. Daahhhhh! Yet, I am the one whose motives are questioned here, not hers?

 

I really do not want to waste any more time and energy throwing more “pearls before swine” (that you apparently perceive as disturbing your group’s collaborative etiquette).

 

No need to reply. I have no desire to respond.

 

From: joelnichol@hotmail.com

Subject: RE: Brothers in Yeshua

Date: July 11, 2009 10:06:10 AM PDT

To: len15@mac.com

 

Dear Dr. Horowitz,

 

. . . . I must ask your advice about the possibility of upcoming forced vaccinations. I have decided that I should outright refuse any such action, knowing full well I may end up dead or in jail for doing so.

 

I guess my question is: What would you have your own self and loved ones do in such a situation as forced vaccinations? This is the question that myself and (most of) my family have been praying for an answer to. Although I fear the spiritual repercussion far more than any earthly punishment, I still want to be free and alive so that I can continue the good fight another day.

 

This is my dilemma, any insight into the subject you can give me I would thoroughly appreciate it. I know of no other truth seekers like the Jews who know Yeshua, and of them, I feel you are by far the most qualified to answer this question.

 

God bless you and your Family,

 

-Joel Asher Nichol

 

Dr. Horowitz’s Reply:

Dear Joel and family,

I came to the same conclusion. My family and I SHALL not be forced to violate the Creator’s laws. Read these two papers: 1) Vaccination: The UnGodly Practice; and 2) What Jesus and Moses Would Say & Do About Vaccinations & TB Skin Tests.

 

Depending on the “forced vaccination” scenario, we would either:

1) Run and/or hide. . . . Head for the woods or some secret hiding place with rations. . . . Ideally in a place, like Hawaii, where food and water is plentiful, or

 

2) I would post “No Trespassing” signs on the borders of my private property; If I was armed, and on my own property, and the genocidalists came for us, I would order them to cease their threatening tresspass; fire a warning shot, if needed, to get them to leave. I would shoot them if they continued to assault us or come for our children; or

 

3) If caught, I would practice peaceful resistance at every level; and

 

4) If forcibly injected, I would pray devoutly to our One Sustaining Source to transmute the physical toxins spiritually, energetically, vocally/musically/mathematically. We would chant our prayers so loud the angels on the other side of Heaven would hear us and whatever was done by the demonic humans would be undone by FAITHFUL PRAYER.

 

Shalom,

Arya ben Schlomo ha Levi

a.k.a. Leonard G. Horowitz

 

On Jul 19, 2009, at 8:18 AM, Laura Fox wrote:

So what are we gonna do about the mandatory vaccine thing? Your thoughts of action?

Thanks!

Laura

 

Dr. Horowitz’s Reply:

Moving out of US may be a wise option many are now choosing.

 

I question whether religious exemptions will hold in developing “emergency.”

 

Forced quarantines are already reported.

 

I am working with colleagues on more. . . . We need a 60s type of in-the-streets action coordinating ALL activist groups. This internet mail and busyness problem, being focused on the web, is part of the control problem. It is a vicarious life.

 

Len